Choosing a domain name is more involved than it may sound, because it entails both choosing a name and finding a parent. In other words, you need to find out where you fit in the Internet domain name space, and decide what you'd like to call your particular corner of that name space.
The first step in picking a domain name is finding where in the existing domain name space you belong. It's easiest to start at the top and work your way down: decide which top-level domain you belong in, then which of that top-level domain's subdomains you fit into.
Note that in order to find out what the Internet domain name space looks like (beyond what we've already told you), you'll need access to the Internet. You don't need access to a host that already has Domain Name Service configured, but it would help a little. If you don't have access to a host with DNS configured, you'll have to "borrow" name service from other name servers (as in our previous ftp.isc.org example) to get you going.
If your organization is attached to the Internet outside of the United States, you first need to decide whether you'd rather request a domain under the generic top-level domains, like com and edu, or under your country's top-level domain. The generic top-level domains, even though some are used largely by U.S. organizations, aren't exclusively for U.S. organizations. If your company is a multi- or transnational company, you may wish to join a generic top-level domain, or if you'd simply prefer a generic top-level to your country's top-level domain, you're welcome to ask to join one. If you choose this route, skip to the section Section 188.8.131.52, "The generic top-level domains" later in this chapter.
If you opt for a subdomain under your country's top level, you should check whether your country's top-level domain is registered, and if it is, what kind of structure it has. Consult our list of the current top-level domains (Appendix C, Top-Level Domains) if you're not sure what the name of your country's top-level domain would be.
Some countries' top-level domains, like New Zealand's nz, Australia's au, and the United Kingdom's uk, are divided organizationally into second-level domains. The names of their second-level domains, like co or com for commercial entities, reflect organizational affiliation. Others, like France's fr domain, and Canada's ca domain, are divided into a multitude of subdomains managed by individual universities and companies, like the University of St. Etienne's domain, univ-st-etienne.fr and Bell Northern Research's bnr.ca. You'll have to use a tool like nslookup to grope around and discover your top-level domain's structure if it isn't well-known. (If you're uncomfortable with our rushing headlong into nslookup without giving it a proper introduction, you might skim Chapter 11, nslookup.) For example, here's how you could list the au domain's subdomains using nslookup:
nslookup - 184.108.40.206- Use the name server at 220.127.116.11 Default Server: ns1.mindspring.com Address: 18.104.22.168 >
set type=ns- Find the name servers (ns) >
au.- for the au domain Server: ns1.mindspring.com Address: 22.214.171.124 au nameserver = MUNNARI.OZ.AU au nameserver = MULGA.CS.MU.OZ.AU au nameserver = JATZ.AARNET.EDU.AU au nameserver = NS.UU.NET au nameserver = NS.EU.NET au nameserver = NS1.BERKELEY.EDU au nameserver = NS2.BERKELEY.EDU au nameserver = VANGOGH.CS.BERKELEY.EDU MUNNARI.OZ.AU internet address = 126.96.36.199 MUNNARI.OZ.AU internet address = 188.8.131.52 MULGA.CS.MU.OZ.AU internet address = 184.108.40.206 MULGA.CS.MU.OZ.AU internet address = 220.127.116.11 JATZ.AARNET.EDU.AU internet address = 18.104.22.168 NS.UU.NET internet address = 22.214.171.124 NS.EU.NET internet address = 126.96.36.199 NS1.BERKELEY.EDU internet address = 188.8.131.52 NS1.BERKELEY.EDU internet address = 184.108.40.206 NS2.BERKELEY.EDU internet address = 220.127.116.11 NS2.BERKELEY.EDU internet address = 18.104.22.168 >
server ns1.berkeley.edu.- Now query one of these name servers - preferably a close one! Default Server: ns1.berkeley.edu Addresses: 22.214.171.124, 126.96.36.199 >
ls au.- List the au zone - the zone's NS records mark delegation to - subdomains and will give - you the names of the subdomains - Note that not all name servers will allow you to list zones, for security reasons. [ns1.berkeley.edu] 3D IN SOA munnari.OZ hostmaster.munnari.OZ ( 1998051400 ; serial 6H ; refresh 1H ; retry 23w5d16h ; expire 3D ) ; minimum 3D IN NS munnari.OZ 3D IN NS mulga.cs.mu.OZ 3D IN NS vangogh.CS.Berkeley.EDU. 3D IN NS ns1.Berkeley.EDU. 3D IN NS ns2.Berkeley.EDU. 3D IN NS ns.UU.NET. 3D IN NS ns.eu.NET. ORG 1D IN NS yalumba.connect.COM yalumba.connect.COM 1D IN A 188.8.131.52 ORG 1D IN NS mulga.cs.mu.OZ mulga.cs.mu.OZ 1D IN A 184.108.40.206 1D IN A 220.127.116.11 ORG 1D IN NS rip.psg.COM. 1D IN NS munnari.OZ munnari.OZ 1D IN A 18.104.22.168 1D IN A 22.214.171.124 info 1D IN NS ns.telstra.net. 1D IN NS ns1.telstra.net. 1D IN NS munnari.oz munnari.oz 1D IN A 126.96.36.199 1D IN A 188.8.131.52 info 1D IN NS svc01.apnic.net. a 3D IN A 184.108.40.206 otc 4H IN NS ns.telstra.com ns.telstra.com 4H IN A 220.127.116.11 otc 4H IN NS ns2.telstra.com ns2.telstra.com 4H IN A 18.104.22.168 otc 4H IN NS munnari.oz munnari.oz 1D IN A 22.214.171.124 1D IN A 126.96.36.199 CSIRO 1D IN NS steps.its.CSIRO steps.its.CSIRO 1D IN A 188.8.131.52 CSIRO 1D IN NS munnari.OZ munnari.OZ 1D IN A 184.108.40.206 1D IN A 220.127.116.11 CSIRO 1D IN NS manta.vic.cmis.CSIRO manta.vic.cmis.CSIRO 1D IN A 18.104.22.168 CSIRO 1D IN NS dmssyd.nsw.cmis.CSIRO dmssyd.nsw.cmis.CSIRO 1D IN A 22.214.171.124 CSIRO 1D IN NS zoiks.per.its.CSIRO zoiks.per.its.CSIRO 1D IN A 126.96.36.199  >
The basic technique we used is straightforward: look up the list of authoritative name servers for the top-level domain - because they're the only ones with complete information about the corresponding zone - then connect to one of those name servers, and list the name servers for the second-level domains.
If you can't tell from the names of the subdomains which one you belong in, you can look up the contact information for the corresponding zone and send email to the technical contact asking, politely, for advice. Similarly, if you think you should be part of an existing subdomain but aren't sure, you can always ask the folks who administer that subdomain to double-check.
To find out who to ask about a subdomain, you'll have to look up the corresponding zone's SOA record. In each zone's start of authority (SOA) record, there's a field that contains the electronic mail address of the zone's technical contact.(The other fields in the start of authority record provide general information about a zone - we'll discuss them in more detail later.) You can look up the zone's SOA record with nslookup, too.
 The subdomain and the zone have the same domain name, but the SOA record really belongs to the zone, not the subdomain. The person at the zone's technical contact email address may not manage the whole subdomain (there may be additional delegated subdomains beneath), but he should certainly know what the purpose of the subdomain is.
If you're curious about the purpose of the csiro subdomain, you can find out who runs it by looking up csiro.au's SOA record:
nslookup - 188.8.131.52Default Server: ns1.mindspring.com Address: 184.108.40.206 >
set type=soa- Look for start of authority data >
csiro.au.- for csiro.au Server: ns1.mindspring.com Address: 220.127.116.11 csiro.au origin = steps.its.csiro.au mail addr = hostmaster.csiro.au serial = 1997122201 refresh = 10800 (3 hours) retry = 3600 (1 hour) expire = 3600000 (41 days 16 hours) minimum ttl = 86400 (1 day)
The mail addr field is the Internet address of csiro.au's contact. To use the address with most UNIX mailers, you'll need to change the first "." in the address to a "@". So hostmaster.csiro.au becomes email@example.com.
 This form of Internet mail address is a vestige of two former DNS records, MB and MG. MB (mailbox) and MG (mail group) were to be DNS records specifying Internet mailboxes and mail groups (mailing lists) as subdomains of the appropriate domain. MB and MG never took off, but the address format they would have dictated is used in the SOA record, maybe for sentimental reasons.
The whois service can also help you figure out what a given domain is for. Many vendors ship a simple whois client that queries a database on a host at the InterNIC (or on another host that you specify) for information about domains, networks, and the people that run them. For example:
will turn up every match for bob in the database, including people, networks and domains. To restrict the search to domains or networks, you can use the keywords dom or net, respectively:%
If your copy of whois is outdated, it'll probably try to query the InterNIC's database on an old host, like sri-nic.arpa or nic.ddn.mil. That'll produce either a pleasant message from the InterNIC staff or a gruff error like this:%
whois dom foo# print information on all domains that match foo %
whois -h whois.arin.net. net 17# print information on network 17
If this happens and you have access to the source code and a compiler, just recompile whois to query whois.internic.net. If you don't have the source, you can still direct whois to use whois.internic.net from the command line with the -h option, as in:sri-nic.arpa: Unknown host
If you don't have a whois client, or would prefer a friendlier interface, you can use the InterNIC's whois web page, at http://rs.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois/. This gives you an HTML forms-based interface for querying the InterNIC's database.%
whois -h whois.internic.net dom au
Unfortunately, the InterNIC's whois database only lists contacts for top-level country domains and subdomains of generic top-level domains, so you won't find csiro.au. Still, you can use it to find the administrative contact for au.
Click on search, and you'll see a screen like Figure 3.1.
 Believe it or not, when we did this for the first edition of this book, there was only one match.
If we scroll down a little, we find "Australia top-level domain," which is what we're after. If you click on the hypertext link labeled "AU-DOM" on that line, you'll see a screen like Figure 3.2, which tells us to talk to Robert Elz about the top-level au domain.
To get csiro.au contact information on the web, you'd need to query the Australian NIC. Is there such a thing? You can check http://www.allwhois.com/, shown in Figure 3.3 to find out. Click on "Australia" in the left-hand frame, and you'll see a screen like the one shown in Figure 3.4.
Click on "Whois" to take you to a forms front-end that will let you query the AUNIC's (Australian NIC's) database.
Obviously, this is a very useful web site if you're looking for the contact for a domain outside of the U.S.
In true cosmopolitan spirit, we covered international domains first. But what if you're from the good ol' U.S. of A.?
If you're in the U.S., where you belong depends mainly upon how many hosts you have. If you only have one or two, or maybe a handful of hosts you'd like registered in the Internet's domain name space, you can join the us domain. The us domain registers individual hosts under third-level domains largely named after cities; the second-level domains correspond to the appropriate U.S. Postal Service two-letter state abbreviation (recall our discussion in the section called "The Internet Domain Name Space" in Chapter 2, How Does DNS Work?). So, for example, if all you need is to register the two internetworked hosts in your basement in Colorado Springs, Colorado, you can just have them added to the colospgs.co.us domain.
You can even get your own domain to manage, thanks to a change in policy by the administrators of the us domain. Originally, the us domain was purely geographical. The us domain administrators added address and mail handling information for your host(s) (more on this in the next two chapters - be patient), but not name server information. In other words, they wouldn't delegate a portion of their domain to you. Nowadays, they encourage U.S. schools, governments, and companies to join the us domain. If you're interested in the details, check out RFC 1480, available from ftp://ftp.ds.internic.net/rfc/rfc1480.txt, or see the information on the us domain on ISI's web site, at http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/usdnr/.
You can also ask for a subdomain of one of the generic top-level domains, like edu and com. As long as you don't ask for an overly long subdomain name (the InterNIC recommends 12 letters or fewer), or one that's already taken, you should get the one you ask for. We'll cover membership under the generic top-levels later in this chapter.
Let's go through an example to give you an idea of how to comb the us domain name space for the perfect domain name. Say you live in Rockville, Maryland, and you want to register the UNIX workstation you just bought out of the back of a truck (hey, it could happen). You're not directly connected to the Internet, but you do have a UUCP connection to UMD in College Park.
Since you only need to have a single host registered, you really don't need your own domain to manage. You just need to have your host registered in the Internet domain name space somewhere. The us top-level domain is the one for you. Letting someone else take care of the name server and domain administration will save you a lot of administrative effort.
Using an account you still have on a host at UMD (from your undergrad days), you can check to see whether a domain for Maryland exists. (If you didn't have an account there, but you did have Internet connectivity, you could still use nslookup to query a well-known name server.)
nslookupDefault Server: noc.umd.edu Address: 18.104.22.168 >
set type=ns- Look up the name servers >
md.us.- for md.us Server: noc.umd.edu Address: 22.214.171.124 md.us nameserver = NS.UU.NET md.us nameserver = ADMII.ARL.MIL md.us nameserver = EXCALIBUR.USC.EDU md.us nameserver = VGR.ARL.MIL md.us nameserver = TRANTOR.UMD.EDU md.us nameserver = MX.NSI.NASA.GOV md.us nameserver = VENERA.ISI.EDU md.us nameserver = NS.ISI.EDU md.us nameserver = RS0.INTERNIC.NET
Sure enough, there's a domain for Maryland. Now change servers to a md.us name server, say venera.isi.edu, and check to see if there are any subdomains (you haven't exited out of nslookup yet):
server venera.isi.edu.- Change server to venera.isi.edu Default Server: venera.isi.edu Address: 126.96.36.199 >
ls md.us.- List the md.us zone to look for NS record [venera.isi.edu] 1D IN SOA VENERA.ISI.EDU. us-domain.ISI.EDU. ( 980112 ; serial 12H ; refresh 1H ; retry 2W ; expire 1D ) ; minimum 1W IN NS RS0.INTERNIC.NET. 1W IN NS NS.UU.NET. 1W IN NS ADMII.ARL.MIL. 1W IN NS EXCALIBUR.USC.EDU. 1W IN NS VGR.ARL.MIL. 1W IN NS TRANTOR.UMD.EDU. 1W IN NS MX.NSI.NASA.GOV. 1W IN NS VENERA.ISI.EDU. 1W IN N NS.ISI.EDU. north-laurel.md.us. 1D IN NS top2.domainregistry.net. 1D IN NS top.domainregistry.net. 1D IN NS primary.southern-domains.com. fruitland.md.us. 1D IN NS top2.domainregistry.net. 1D IN NS top.domainregistry.net. 1D IN NS primary.southern-domains.com. frostburg.md.us. 1D IN NS winnt.i-theta.com. 1D IN NS ns2.us-domains.com. 1D IN NS ns.manchester.mo.us. creativedesign.college.md.us. 1W IN NS ns.webindonesia.com. 1W IN NS ns2.webindonesia.com. carroll.md.us. 1W IN NS auth00.ns.uu.net. 1W IN NS auth50.ns.uu.net. oxon-hill.md.us. 1D IN NS winnt.i-theta.com. 1D IN NS ns2.us-domains.com. 1D IN NS ns.manchester.mo.us. [...]
Aha! So there is life in Maryland! There are subdomains called aa, adelphi, al, allegany, and many others. But there doesn't seem to be a domain for Rockville. No matter - you may be the first host in Rockville to want to register under the md.us domain. Or perhaps this naming scheme is based on county names, and Rockville would fit under its county name. Either way, the administrators of md.us can find a home for you. Since your domain name will just be part of the md.us zone, it won't require very much work for them - there's no need to set up separate servers.
What to call the new subdomain, if you need a new one? rockville.md.us? rock.md.us? Turns out there's a convention in the us domain that city-level domains be named after the appropriate Western Union "City Mnemonic." (Don't worry: the us administrators have a copy.) The alternative is to use the full name of the city.
Actually, with any parent domain, it's possible that the administrators of the domain will have strong feelings about the names of their child domains (just as your parents probably had strong feelings about naming you). They may want to preserve the consistency of their name space. We think it's polite to defer to your parent if they feel strongly about naming - after all, they could simply refuse to let you join the domain. You still get to choose the name of your host, after all.
How do you find out how to contact your parent domain's administrator? You can try whois, but since md.us isn't a top-level country domain or part of a generic top-level domain, you probably won't find much. Your best bet is probably to use nslookup to find the SOA record for the md.us zone, just as you did to find out whom to ask about csiro.au. Though the person or persons who read mail sent to the address in the SOA record may not handle registration themselves (technical and administrative functions for the zone may be divided), it's a good bet they know the folks who do and can direct you to them.
Here's how you'd use nslookup to dig up the SOA record for md.us:
nslookupDefault Server: noc.umd.edu Address: 188.8.131.52 >
set type=soa- Look up SOA record >
md.us.- for md.us Server: noc.umd.edu Address: 184.108.40.206 md.us origin = VENERA.ISI.EDU mail addr = us-domain.ISI.EDU serial = 971109 refresh = 43200 (12 hours) retry = 3600 (1 hour) expire = 1209600 (14 days) minimum ttl = 86400 (1 day)
As in the csiro.au example, you need to swap the first "." in the mail addr field for an "@" before you use it. Thus, us-domain.ISI.EDU becomes us-domain@ISI.EDU.
As we said, there are many reasons that you might want to ask for a subdomain of one of the generic top-level domains, like com, edu, and org: you work for a multi- or transnational company, you like the fact that they're better-known, or you just like the sound of your domain name better with "com" on the end. Let's go through a short example of choosing a domain name under a gTLD.
Imagine you're the student administrator of a small university network in Hopkins, Minnesota. You've just gotten a grant for Internet connectivity, and are about to be connected to your regional network, MRNet. Your university has never had so much as a UUCP link, so you're not currently registered in the Internet name space.
Since you're in the United States, you have the choice of joining either us or edu. You've already got over a dozen computers on your local network, though, and you expect more, so us wouldn't be a good choice. A subdomain of edu would be best.
Your university is known as The Gizmonics Institute, so you decide gizmo.edu might be an appropriate domain name. Now you've got to check if the name gizmo.edu has been taken by anyone, so you use an account you have at UMN:
nslookupDefault Server: ns.unet.umn.edu Address: 220.127.116.11 >
set type=any- Look for any records >
gizmo.edu.- for gizmo.edu Server: ns.unet.umn.edu Address: 18.104.22.168 *** ns.unet.umn.edu can't find gizmo.edu.: Non-existent domain
Looks like there's no gizmo.edu yet (hardly surprising), so you can go on to the next step: finding out who runs your intended parent domain. You use whois:
whois dom eduEducation top-level domain (EDU-DOM) Network Solutions, Inc. 505 Huntmar Park Dr. Herndon, VA 22070 Domain Name: EDU Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Network Solutions, Inc. (HOSTMASTER) HOSTMASTER@INTERNIC.NET (703) 742-4777 (FAX) (703) 742-9552 Record last updated on 17-Jan-97. Record created on 01-Jan-85. Database last updated on 25-Dec-97 05:33:33 EDT. . Domain servers in listed order: [...]
Before proceeding, you should check whether or not your IP network or networks are registered. Many parent domains won't delegate a subdomain to name servers on unregistered networks, and registries won't delegate an in-addr.arpa subdomain that corresponds to an unregistered network.
An IP network defines a range of IP addresses. For example, the network 15/8 is made up of all IP addresses in the range 22.214.171.124 to 126.96.36.199. The network 199.10.25/24 starts at 188.8.131.52 and ends at 184.108.40.206.
The InterNIC was once the official source of all IP networks; they assigned all IP networks to Internet-connected networks and made sure no two ranges overlapped. Nowadays, the InterNIC's old role has been largely assumed by Internet Service Providers (ISPs), who allocate space from their own networks for customers to use. If you know your network came from your ISP, the larger network from which your network was carved is probably registered (to your ISP). You may still want to double-check that your ISP took care of registering their network, but you don't (and probably can't) do anything yourself, except nag your ISP if they didn't register their network. Once you've verified their registration, you can skip the rest of this section and move on.
If, however, your network was assigned by the InterNIC, way back when, or you are an ISP, you should check to see whether your network is registered. Where do you go to check whether your network is registered? Why, to the same organizations that register networks, of course. These organizations, called (what else?) registries, each handle network registration in some part of the world. In the Western Hemisphere, ARIN, the American Registry of Internet Numbers, at http://www.arin.net/, hands out IP address space and registers networks. In Asia and the Pacific, APNIC, the Asia Pacific Network Information Center, at http://www.apnic.net/, serves the same function. In Europe, it's the RIPE Network Coordination Centre, at http://www.ripe.net/. Each registry may also delegate registration authority for a region; for example, ARIN delegates registration authority for Mexico and for Brazil to registries in each country. Be sure to check for a registry local to your country.
If you're not sure your network is registered, the best way to find it is to use the whois service provided by the various registries and look for your network. Here are the URLs for each registry's whois page:
If you find out your network isn't registered, you'll need to get it registered before setting up your in-addr.arpa zones. Each registry has a different process for registering networks, but most involve money changing hands (from your hands to theirs, unfortunately).
You may find out that your network is already assigned to your ISP. If this is the case, you don't need to register independently with the registry.
Once all your Internet-connected hosts are on registered networks, you can give your parent domain a call.
Different domains have different registration policies. We've included the InterNIC's current registration form for second-level domains as Appendix D, Domain Registration Form. The form is only valid for registration under the InterNIC-run generic top-level domains like com and edu. (In other words, don't submit it to the administrators of the au or fr domain and expect them to honor it.) It should, however, give you an idea of what to expect in a registration form (especially if you're registering under one of the InterNIC's domains). Other domains often have more informal registration processes. Sometimes simply sending the "registrar" the necessary information in an email message will do.
Since the forms will undoubtedly become obsolete before we update this book again, you should check out the InterNIC's online, HTML forms-based registration process at http://www.rs.internic.net/rs-internic.html. Although this process doesn't actually submit the form yet, it does automate the process of creating a properly-formatted request that you can then email to the InterNIC. Or you can just retrieve the current forms and print them, then fill them out by hand.
The basic information that your parent needs is the names and addresses of your domain name servers. If you're not connected to the Internet, give them the addresses of the Internet hosts that will act as your name servers. Some parent domains also require that you already have operational name servers for your domain. (The InterNIC doesn't, but they ask for an estimate of when the domain will be fully operational.) If that's the case with your parent, skip ahead to Chapter 4, and set up your name servers. Then contact your parent with the requisite information.
If the InterNIC runs your parent domain, they'll also ask for some information about your organization, and for an administrative contact and a technical contact for your domain (which can be the same person). If your contacts aren't already registered in the InterNIC's whois database, you'll also need to provide information to register them in whois. This includes their names, surface mail addresses, phone numbers, and electronic mail addresses. If they are already registered in whois, just specify their InterNIC whois "handle" (a unique alphanumeric ID) in the registration.
There's one more aspect of registering a new domain with the InterNIC that we should mention: cost. Network Solutions, Inc. (NSI), the contractor that manages the InterNIC, has begun charging to register new top-level domains and domains under the generic top-level domains com, net, and org. The startup fee is $70 (U.S.). NSI has also instituted an ongoing, annual charge of U.S. $35 for each domain. If you already have a subdomain under com, net, or org and haven't received a bill from NSI recently, it'd be a good idea to check your contact information with whois to make sure they've got a current address and phone number for you. For more information on the billing policy and the current scoop on the InterNIC registration process, see http://www.rs.internic.net/rs-internic.html.
If you're directly connected to the Internet, you should also have the in-addr.arpa domains corresponding to your IP networks delegated to you. For example, if your company was allocated the network 192.201.44/24, you should manage the 44.201.192.in-addr.arpa domain. This will let you control the IP address-to-name mappings for hosts on your network. Chapter 4 also explains how to set up your in-addr.arpa domains.
In the last section, "Checking That Your Network Is Registered," we asked you to find the answers to several questions: is your network a slice of an ISP's network? Is your network, or the ISP's network that your network is part of, registered? In which registry? You'll need these answers to have your in-addr.arpa domains delegated to you.
If your network is part of a larger network registered to an ISP, you should contact the ISP to have the appropriate subdomains of in-addr.arpa delegated to you. Each ISP uses a different process for setting up in-addr.arpa delegation. Your ISP's web page is a good place to research that process. If you can't find the information there, try looking up the SOA record for the in-addr.arpa domain that corresponds to your ISP's network. For example, if your network is part of UUnet's 153.35/16 network, you could look up the SOA record of 35.153.in-addr.arpa to find the email address of the technical contact for the zone.
If your network is registered directly with one of the regional registries, contact them to get your in-addr.arpa domain registered. Each registry makes information on their delegation process available on its web site. ARIN's template for requesting in-addr.arpa delegation, inaddrtemplate.txt, is included in this book as Appendix E, in-addr.arpa Registration Form, and available online at http://rs.arin.net/templates/inaddrtemplate.txt.
Now that you've sent your prospective parent word that you'd like to be adopted, you'd better take some time to get your things in order. You've got a domain to set up, and in the next chapter, we'll show you how.